Freddie & Johnnie Heintz & the tale of tiny thespians

Above: Johnnie and Freddie Heintz, sit distracted on the ground in front of older children of the Pollard Lilliputian Opera Company, while on the long performance tour of 1904-1907.[1]University of Washington Sayre (J. Willis) Collection of Theatrical Photographs, via Wikimedia Commons


Until quite recently, accounts of Pollards Lilliputian Opera Company, as run by Charles Pollard and Nellie Chester, have tended to be of a celebratory and nationalistic nature, coloured by the success of a few of its Australian graduates. At the time, a great effort was made to represent the company [2]or more correctly – companies, as the troupes changed over time as a type of travelling educational institution,[3]Democrat and Chronicle (New York), 9 March 1902, p.10 while all sorts of spurious claims were made regarding the qualifications of the adults accompanying the children.(See for example, the account at left from the Chicago Tribune, 19 May 1902. Click to enlarge)

We have few records from the child performers themselves. Only one Lilliputian was interviewed in any depth, much later in life. The experience of Freddie and Johnnie Heintz, related below, shows a childhood spent with Pollards was much less spectacular than the prevailing stereotype suggests.

Maggie Moore on Child Actors

Maggie Moore c1902. Bangs Photographer.[4]State Library of Victoria. Coppin Collection MS 8827

In 1904, during one of her many performance tours of Australia, popular US born actress Maggie Moore (1851-1926) wrote an article on the valuable experience the stage provided for children. The piece in The Australasian Stage Annual was entitled “Tales of Tiny Thespians,” and it was unusually long for a magazine devoted almost exclusively to short articles about the legitimate stage.[5]The magazine appeared at Christmas time each year. The State Library of Victoria holds editions of 1900-1906 It made the point repeatedly, that a career on stage provided children, especially those from poorer families, with an education, personal development and a worthwhile career.

She told readers;
Recently a law in England was passed to prevent young children going upon the stage. Oh! The pity of it! How many tiny mites will have a cold, cruel Christmas – no sunshine, no laughter, no shillings for mother at the end of the week. Who knows, perhaps they will be hungry. Nothing to eat on Christmas day, nothing to put in the empty stockings.[6]The Australasian Stage Annual, 1904 p14, State Library of Victoria

Moore’s intention was completely serious here – there was no tongue-in-cheek, 21st century humour going on.

The Australasian Stage Annual, 1904 p14 [7]State Library of Victoria

The article was peppered with personal anecdotes, many of them about working class urchins who were venturing on stage for the first time, but still in need of a bath or a face wash, and whose speech she rendered into that peculiar and patronising style favoured by writers of the time, sometimes bordering on caricature;

[Moore] And tell me why you are called ‘Ginger’? What is your proper name?
“Oh! Me oder name: that’s Sonny… Yes me mudder always called me Sonny. It’s only since I went dancin’ in the pubs dat I’ve been ‘Ginger'”

[Moore] Your mother is dead is she?
“Yes” And tears came to his eyes…
[8]The Australasian Stage Annual, 1904 p26, State Library of Victoria

Maggie Moore on “Joe and Jim O’Reilly”

Maggie Moore also recounted working with a pair of four year olds in a pantomime, who she named as Joe and Jim O’Reilly. “Joe was very quiet and always very tidy, Jim was a terror.” The boys fought to collect the flowers thrown at the end of one particular song to put on “daddy’s drave” (grave). Paid sixpence as tea-money, on one occasion they missed a cue because they spent the money instead on seeing another panto at a nearby theatre. But she reassured readers they had now grown up and were at work, although aged only fourteen. “The stage was their school until they lost their childish tricks, and I am sure both will be good, clever men when they get older.” [9]The Australasian Stage Annual, 1904 p22, State Library of Victoria

Did Joe and Jim O’Reilly really exist? Perhaps they did… in some other form.

Freddie and Johnnie Heintz

In the same year that Moore wrote her article, a Fitzroy widow was considering the future for her twin boys, Freddie and Johnnie Heintz. Annie Heintz lived in a small cottage in Kerr St Fitzroy, but had lost her husband John, a baker, in 1901.[10]Leader (Melb) 2 March 1901, p44 Despite the era’s significant mortality rate with childbirth (and with the birth of twins particularly), Mrs White, an experienced local midwife, had assisted in a successful delivery of Annie Heintz’s twins at home in December 1895. But by the time of John Heintz’s death there were six children aged under 12 in the Heintz family – it must have been a financial strain. Annie’s oldest son, Ernest, soon joined the thriving boot trade of inner Melbourne, but another son, Oscar, had turned in a different direction and in 1901, aged 10, had joined Pollards Lilliputian Opera Company. This arrangement generated a modest but steady income for the family.

Johnnie and Freddie Heintz with their mother Annie, c1904-1907. Private Collection.

Freddie and Johnnie join the Pollards

Like their older brother Oscar, Freddie and Johnnie developed an interest in performing. Ethel Monte Punshon (1882-1989) met them later in life and recounted that following the death of their father, the Heintz twins sold sweets outside Melbourne theatres, where they were also observed to be entertaining mimics.[11]See Tessa Morris-Suzuki’s bio of Punshon (2024), p80

The enthusiasm for an adventure performing musical comedy with the Pollards also affected other children living in Kerr St, Fitzroy. The girls of the neighbouring Trott and Bennetto families had already toured with the Pollards by 1904. The Topping girls had too – they also lived nearby, just around the corner in Fitzroy Street. Without a doubt, these children also knew each other from the very small playground and crowded classrooms of the nearby Bell Street School in Fitzroy.

Red dots mark the homes of Pollard homes in Kerr St Fitzroy, today. In 1900, No. 84 (red door on the left) housed the Heintz family, No 76 (centre of photo) the Bennettos, and No 56 (the white cottage in the right far distance) was home to the Trott family. Author’s collection

Ernest Wolff and Nellie Chester in happier times c1903. [12]Australian Performing Arts Museum

Coincidentally, in early 1904, the Pollard company’s musical conductor, Ernest Wolff (1874-1948), attempted to induce some of the Pollard parents to join a new break-away juvenile company he was planning, with higher rates of pay on offer. The tall, good looking and over confident Ernest Wolff personally visited many of the parents in April, and convinced them that that their existing contracts with the proprietors of Pollards (Charles Pollard (1858-1942) & Nellie Chester nee Pollard(1861-1944) were not binding. It is clear from surviving Supreme Court records that Annie Heintz had accepted Wolff’s offer to employ Oscar. However on May 4, after Oscar missed some rehearsals, Charles Pollard visited Annie Heintz. He assured her the original contract with him was valid and said, ominously, that the matter would be soon be going to Court. Annie quickly backed down, re-engaged with Pollards, and it was soon after this that she also signed up Freddie and Johnnie to join the next Pollards troupe. Other parents who had been lured by the promise of higher salaries also re-committed to Pollards.

When the matter went to the Supreme Court on May 13, Wolff abandoned his plan.[13]Supreme Court Victoria 1904/329 Pollard & Anor V Wolffe and see also contemporary reports – including Nanaimo Daily News (British Columbia, Canada) July 7, 1904, p3 The court records reveal some of the details of the Pollards operations. Oscar Heintz’s salary, paid to Annie, was 10 shillings per month for the first six months and £1 per month thereafter, on a two year contract.(The contract was due to expire in December 1904 – but it was subsequently renewed)

So, in July 1904, a new Pollard troupe departed Melbourne. The performance tour first took in Queensland (where some of their musical comedies were tested out), then on to Manila, Japanese ports and finally to North America. On board were Freddie and Johnnie, and their older brother Oscar, and all of the other children Wolff had attempted to “poach”. The very familiar Pollard repertoire of musical comedies included A Runaway Girl, The Belle of New York, A Gaiety Girl, The Geisha and HMS Pinafore. Although the troupe was predominantly made up of girls, the Heintz twins joined a small group of boys who took the leading comic character roles.

The Pollards troupe in late 1904, apparently posing outside a Manilla Jail. Oscar Heintz stands left rear, Freddie and Johnnie at the front.[14]University of Washington Sayre (J. Willis) Collection of Theatrical Photographs, via Wikimedia Commons

Compulsory Education and the Pollards

In the Heintz children’s hometown of Melbourne, compulsory education for all children aged between 6 and 15 had been legislated in 1872. But there was often non-compliance with child labour laws [15]See Wilcox and Anderson and the Education Act also allowed for legitimate “exemptions,” such as “that a child is under efficient instruction in some other manner.” This “some other manner” is also what the Pollard management claimed when they took Wolff to court – they stated they were contracted to “properly provide for, maintain and clothe… [the children] and teach and educate [them] in the profession of the stage.” The court found in the Pollards favour and by implication, approved of the contracts.[16]Supreme Court Victoria 1904/329 Pollard & Anor V Wolffe

Freddie and Johnnie Heintz in character for Pollard’s Lilliputian Opera Company in North America, c1906. [17]University of Washington Sayre (J. Willis) Collection of Theatrical Photographs, via Wikimedia Commons

Freddie and Johnnie’s first tour with Pollards did not to return to Australia until February 1907, an extraordinary 32 months away from home. Older brother Oscar was not with them when they returned. Aged 16, he simply stayed on in Portland, Oregon and built a new, non-theatrical life for himself in the US.

After four months back in Fitzroy, Freddie and Johnnie joined the next Pollards trip, which departed Australia in late July 1907, and which followed a similar route to the last, most of the time being spent in North America. In early 1909, fifteen months later, they returned to Australia. The Heintz twins had, by now, spent most of the last five years on the road.

In 1909, following Charles Pollard’s retirement,[18]The Telegraph (Qld.)17 Apr 1909 p8 the youngest member of the Pollard family, Arthur Hayden Pollard (1873-1940), organised another troupe and the Heintz boys joined up, once again. However, within six months the trip had collapsed disastrously and Australian newspapers were carrying news of the accusations of Arthur Pollard’s cruelty towards his charges.

The Arthur Pollard troupe – a photo taken in February 1910, after he had abandoned them. Freddie Heintz stands in the third row, 2nd from left, while Johnnie is sitting front row, third from right. [19] Leader (Melb) 2 Apr 1910, p23

Amongst numerous complaints from children that surfaced while the troupe was in India, Freddie Heintz claimed he had been repeatedly struck by Arthur Pollard. Through the pages of the Madras Times, Pollard attempted to defend himself; “Yes, I have boxed Fred’s ears, and smacked him on the proper place several times, but never without good cause for doing so.”[20]as reported in The Daily News (Perth) 9 March 1910, p7 Other child performers had reportedly been roughly treated, or confined to bread and water, or had their hair cut, or were punished in other ways. Arthur Pollard clearly had a temperament completely unsuited to managing children, even if Freddie Heintz was a difficult youngster. Pollard subsequently made off with the proceeds of the tour and 18 year old performer Irene Finlay, whom he later bigamously married. Stuck in India, it took several months for Freddie and Johnnie Heintz -and the rest of the troupe – to get home.[21]See Gillian Arrighi (2017) and Kirsty Murray (2010) for accounts of this

In Australia after 1909

In Australia again, Freddie and Johnnie joined the Juvenile Comic Opera Company being organised by J C Williamsons to tour Australian cities. Some of the company members were former Pollards players (Ivy Moore, Ivy Ferguson, Florrie Allen as well as the Heintz boys) and the musical comedies performed were from the familiar popular repertoire favoured by Pollards. There the similarities ended however. JC Williamsons took their responsibilities to educate seriously – they could scarcely do otherwise in Australia, with its pioneer laws regarding education. It was at this time that Monte Punshon, the troupe’s teacher, met the Heintz twins.[22]In Arthur Pollard’s ill-fated troupe, 17 year old Ruby Ford had been nominated as the “schoolmistress” – she later claimed this was a ruse so that Pollard could fulfil his … Continue reading

Freddie and Johnnie as members of the JC Williamsons juvenile opera in Adelaide in 1911.[23]The Advertiser (Adelaide) 14 April 1911, p2

Monte Punshon recalled that neither of the Heintz boys attended her morning classes, but they did develop a strong rapport with her. And it was Johnny who confided to Monte that neither of them had ever learned to read or write, an awful inditement of life for some of the Pollard children. Monte even recounted the experience of sitting on a train, with Freddie dictating a letter for her to write, a love letter to a girlfriend – too difficult for him to write himself.[24]Tessa Morris-Suzuki (2024), p79-81 The claim carries more weight when considered with fellow Pollards performer Irene Goulding‘s comments. Interviewed late in life she expressed regret for her limited education, a consequence of a childhood spent on performance tours.

For unrelated reasons, JC Williamsons comic opera company folded, and Monte Punshon’s brief relationship with the twins came to an end. Also at about this time, Johnny left the stage for good. He became a baker and settled in Adelaide. Freddie however, stayed on the stage in variety, but seems to have drifted for a while. On New Year’s morning 1913, he found himself in serious trouble for swearing at a policeman. He was near his home in Kerr Street, so ran inside after the incident, but was pursued by angry police. He then made things worse by throwing a chair at them. In court a few days later, he explained he had been drinking too much with friends. He was fined 20 shillings.[25]The Herald (Melb) 3 Jan 1913, p6

Freddie seeks a career in the US

In Maggie Moore’s 1904 article, the ultimate measurement of success for a juvenile performer was to find work overseas. Of one, unnamed and perhaps imaginary former child actor, now in the US, she wrote; “You should have seen [his]… mother’s face when I called to see her… and what pride she spoke of her boy and the money he had sent her for Christmas.”

Perhaps with a similar dream, but likely at the invitation of Nellie Chester[26]who had set up a new musical comedy troupe in the US comprising ex-Pollards players Freddie left Australia in June 1914. He soon teamed up with some familiar Pollard names – Teddy McNamara, Nellie McNamara and Queenie Williams, to tour the old popular favourites like The Mikado and also their own shorter, snappier musical spectaculars – such as A Millionaire for a Day and Married by Wireless – with smaller casts and an increasing emphasis on mechanical effects.

The “adult Pollards”, almost all Australians, and including Freddie Heintz in top hat, touring California in 1916.[27]The Times-Herald (Vallejo, CA) Feb 6, 1916 p3

Like other performers during the Great War, Freddie dropped the surname Heintz for stage purposes, and went by the less German sounding surname Garland. Although the adult Pollards continued on for a short time, in March 1918 Freddie left the stage and travelled north to join the Canadian army. His military record shows he saw service in France for several months, but in January 1919, with the war over, he was sentenced to 21 days of the notoriously degrading “Field Punishment No1” for carrying out his sentry duties in a “slovenly manner.” He was “demobbed” in April 1919 and returned to the US and back to vaudeville. Whatever his weaknesses as a soldier, throughout his military service, Freddie dutifully sent most of his pay home to his mother Annie, still living at the little cottage in Kerr St, Fitzroy. Sadly, Annie died in June 1919, a victim of the Influenza pandemic.

Freddie in 1922. [28]The Oregonian (Portland) July 25, 1922 p6

Freddie Garland becomes Freddie Steele

In 1922, Freddie re-launched his career again. He was now “Freddie Steele,” and he had allegedly been “adopted” by vaudevillian Lillian Steele and her husband Harry Hoffman, becoming part of their song, dance and comedy act, performing Love Lessons on the Loew circuit.[29]A ridiculous account of his background appears in The Birmingham News (Alabama) May 29, 1922, p2. A more sober announcement appeared in The Vaudeville News, May 19, 1922 p12 This teaming with Lillian Steele continued on and off over the next few years and was apparently a successful partnership.

By 1926 Freddie was appearing in a variety-illusion act called In China on the Pantages circuit.[30]The Edmonton Bulletin (Canada) Feb 19, 1926, p16 Then in 1927, he appeared at the Schubert Theatre in Fog, a mystery melodrama – a complete change of pace for a song and dance man. He was now Freddie Garland again, perhaps to avoid confusion with others.

A typical mixed program of 1928, integrating vaudeville and cinema.[31]Poughkeepsie Eagle-News (New York) Jun 26, 1928 p12

In 1925 Freddie married Sophie Russell, a fellow performer from New York, whilst touring through West Virginia. The marriage had failed within a few years – by the time of the 1930 US census he described his status as single. We might assume that Freddie continued to perform in the 1930s, but his footprints in the historical record are faint and there seems little evidence of any significant activity on stage. With the rise of radio, the onset of the depression and then the booming popularity of the talkies, Freddie’s career as a jobbing vaudevillian meant he was particularly vulnerable. According to the 1940 US census, by that year he was boarding with the Emil Coretty family in Freeport, on Long Island, New York, and was now a handyman.

By the late 1940s, Freddie Heintz had moved on, perhaps in search of new opportunities. He was living at the Natick Hotel in Los Angeles when he was accidentally struck and killed by a car, in July 1949. His death certificate stated he was a clerk, although newspapers of the time had also reported he was a “newsboy.”[32]Daily News (Los Angeles) July 20, 1949, p29

A glance at the real and complex lives of the tiny thespians

In Maggie Moore’s view, from 1904, stage experiences beckoned invitingly for children. And for a few young people, membership of troupes like the Pollards really did change their lives, despite the absence of formalised education. Ted McNamara, Alf Goulding and Harold Fraser (Snub Pollard) all built impressive careers in the US. However, in terms of their personal lives, there was often much less success. After the death of his first wife, Alf Goulding remarried a further five times. Snub Pollard married three times but died alone in 1962, while Ted McNamara married twice before his early and unhappy death in early 1928. John Cherry (1887-1968), who often used the stage name Jack Pollard, is perhaps the most successful of the ex-Pollards boys – creating a long career on the legitimate stage on the US east coast while enjoying a stable relationship.

Gillian Arrighi has characterised the juvenile Pollards players as “caught in an industrial theatre complex.”[33]Arrighi (2017) p157 Some degree of awareness of this might explain why a number of Freddie’s contemporaries from Pollards chose not to pursue careers on stage. Roy Smith became an electrician in the US, while Willie Thomas became a butcher in Australia. Both Johnnie and Oscar Heintz left the stage.

May Martyn as Maie Vine undated poster c1910[34] Prompt Scrapbook National Library of Australia

For women, societal norms made the pathway to the stage as an adult challenging and their careers were sometimes abandoned after marriage. However, many ex-Pollard girls successfully established themselves on stage. For example, using skills learned with Pollards, May Martyn (1893-1982) and Elsie Morris (1896-1966) both became popular male impersonators in Australia, specialising in the pretentious upper class “swell” or “toff” character. The Heintz’s neighbours from Fitzroy, Alice (1885-1970) and Ethel (1889-1985) Bennetto, also built successful stage careers in Australia. Alice went on to enjoy a long career as the personal and professional partner of comedian Elton Black. Ethel even appeared in an Australian film – Does the Jazz lead to Destruction? (1919)

But of all the tiny thespians with Pollards, it was Daphne Trott (Pollard), also from Kerr Street Fitzroy, who arguably achieved the greatest success – taking into account her stage successes on Broadway and in London, and her later Hollywood screen roles. It is worth noting that when interviewed by film historian Sam Gill in the 1970s, Daphne recalled that when first approached, she didn’t want to take the “step down” from the stage to appear in Keystone comedy films! It took until the late 1920s for her to see the value in acting for the screen.[35]Sam Gill, personal information, January 2026


Of Oscar and Johnnie Heintz

Oscar Heintz died suddenly in Portland, United States in 1939, aged only 48. He had studied, graduated and married by 1915, and had two sons. At the time of his death he was a manager for Ramsay Neon Signs, a company that survives in Portland today. In late 1929 he visited Australia to see his surviving sisters Annie and Eva.[36]The Oregonian, Oct 10, 1929, p6


John (no longer Johnnie in adulthood) Heintz died in Adelaide, Australia in 1945 as a result of myocarditis. He was 49 years old. He had married in 1918 and had a daughter who predeceased him.[37]The News (Adelaide) 29 Aug 1945 p3


Nick Murphy
March 2026


References

Thanks to 

  • A J McKirdy for her kind assistance.
  • Sam Gill
  • and Claudia Funder, at the Australian Performing Arts Collection, Melbourne.

Text

  • Gillian Arrighi, ’The Controversial “Case of the Opera Children in the east”: Political Conflict between Popular Demand for Child Actors and Modernizing Cultural Policy on the Child’, Theatre Journal, 69, Johns Hopkins University Press, 2017, pp.153–173
  • Gillian Arrighi and Victor Emeljanow (eds), Entertaining Children: The Participation of Youth in the Entertainment Industry, Palgrove MacMillan, New York, 2014. Chapter 3. ‘Children and Youth of the Empire: Tales of Transgression and Accommodation’, pp.51-71
  • Peter Downes, The Pollards. A family and its child and adult opera companies in New Zealand and Australia 1880–1910, Steele Roberts, Aotearoa, New Zealand, 2002
  • Sally Howes, Irene Smith (nee Goulding) interview, Cassette 616, Australian Performing Arts Collection, Art Centre Melbourne, 1985
  • Kirsty Murray, India Dark, Allen and Unwin, 2010

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Australian Dictionary of Biography, National Centre of Biography, Australian National University

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Footnotes

Footnotes
1, 14, 17 University of Washington Sayre (J. Willis) Collection of Theatrical Photographs, via Wikimedia Commons
2 or more correctly – companies, as the troupes changed over time
3 Democrat and Chronicle (New York), 9 March 1902, p.10
4 State Library of Victoria. Coppin Collection MS 8827
5 The magazine appeared at Christmas time each year. The State Library of Victoria holds editions of 1900-1906
6 The Australasian Stage Annual, 1904 p14, State Library of Victoria
7 State Library of Victoria
8 The Australasian Stage Annual, 1904 p26, State Library of Victoria
9 The Australasian Stage Annual, 1904 p22, State Library of Victoria
10 Leader (Melb) 2 March 1901, p44
11 See Tessa Morris-Suzuki’s bio of Punshon (2024), p80
12 Australian Performing Arts Museum
13 Supreme Court Victoria 1904/329 Pollard & Anor V Wolffe and see also contemporary reports – including Nanaimo Daily News (British Columbia, Canada) July 7, 1904, p3
15 See Wilcox and Anderson
16 Supreme Court Victoria 1904/329 Pollard & Anor V Wolffe
18 The Telegraph (Qld.)17 Apr 1909 p8
19 Leader (Melb) 2 Apr 1910, p23
20 as reported in The Daily News (Perth) 9 March 1910, p7
21 See Gillian Arrighi (2017) and Kirsty Murray (2010) for accounts of this
22 In Arthur Pollard’s ill-fated troupe, 17 year old Ruby Ford had been nominated as the “schoolmistress” – she later claimed this was a ruse so that Pollard could fulfil his contractual obligations to parents
23 The Advertiser (Adelaide) 14 April 1911, p2
24 Tessa Morris-Suzuki (2024), p79-81
25 The Herald (Melb) 3 Jan 1913, p6
26 who had set up a new musical comedy troupe in the US comprising ex-Pollards players
27 The Times-Herald (Vallejo, CA) Feb 6, 1916 p3
28 The Oregonian (Portland) July 25, 1922 p6
29 A ridiculous account of his background appears in The Birmingham News (Alabama) May 29, 1922, p2. A more sober announcement appeared in The Vaudeville News, May 19, 1922 p12
30 The Edmonton Bulletin (Canada) Feb 19, 1926, p16
31 Poughkeepsie Eagle-News (New York) Jun 26, 1928 p12
32 Daily News (Los Angeles) July 20, 1949, p29
33 Arrighi (2017) p157
34  Prompt Scrapbook National Library of Australia
35 Sam Gill, personal information, January 2026
36 The Oregonian, Oct 10, 1929, p6
37 The News (Adelaide) 29 Aug 1945 p3

Daphne Pollard (1891-1978) – I had to know 36 operas!

Above and below: Daphne Pollard inscribed this photo to former Pollards performer Willie Thomas and his brother Albert, while they were on leave in London from fighting in France, in 1918. Daphne was appearing in Albert De Courville‘s review, Box o’ Tricks. It was a joyful reunion Thomas recalled. Courtesy Robert Maynard.

The author’s 2022 article on Daphne Pollard can be read here at Theatre Heritage Australia online


The 5 second version
Born Daphne Trott in Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia, 19 October 1891, she died in Los Angeles, California, USA on 22 February 1978. A child performer with the Pollard’s Lilliputian Opera Company from about 1900 to 1907, she travelled through South East Asia, Canada and the United States on at least four extended tours. She moved permanently to the US in 1907, becoming a very popular variety and comedy performer on stage in the US and Britain in her own right. She was busy appearing in films in Hollywood quite late in her career – 1927-36.
Most of her family moved to the US with her in 1908. She never performed in Melbourne, Australia – her place of birth. Her sister Ivy also performed with Pollards, also briefly in the US before retiring in 1908.

The talented actress Daphne Pollard was born Daphne Trott at 56 Kerr Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, in October 1891 to Walter Trott and Annie nee Daniels. She was one of those rare gifts to the stage – she could sing and dance and became an expert in slapstick – the physical comedy so popular at the start of the twentieth century. Standing a little over 1.40 metres tall (or 4 foot eight and a half inches) as an adult, she was on stage from the age from an early age. She was a good-looking child performer, with great confidence for her age. She was to become the star attraction of the Pollard’s Lilliputian Opera Company, an Australian troupe (or more accurately – series of troupes) featuring talented children usually from the inner Melbourne suburbs of Fitzroy and Collingwood, who took on the adult roles in musical comedies. However, Gillian Arrighi has reminded us that the musical comedies performed by Pollard’s, such as their perennial favourite, A Gaiety Girl, were suggestive, with plots preoccupied with sexual relationships – or “playful gambolling on the verge of indecency” as Edwardian theatre critic William Archer wrote (see Arrighi p.154).

Daphne photographed in Shanghai
Photo attributed to Ying Cheong, a photographer and painter in Canton Road Shanghai, Source -National library of Australia.
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Daphne Pollard and Leah Leichner re-creating a scene from The Geisha. Likely by Ying Cheong, Shanghai Courtesy University of Washington, Special Collections, JWS24603.

As an example, consider the lyrics of the song “Baby Baby” from The Lady Slavey:
“Lovers are silly young things you know and I am as silly as any.
I’ve worn two engagement rings you know, but two, you’ll agree are not many”

It is interesting to reflect on the impact of a childhood spent growing up “on stage” – as Daphne and some of the Pollard’s children experienced. There is little evidence to help us – although Willie Thomas’ and Leah Leichner’s stories may contain some clues. Daphne spoke briefly about the experience shortly after she married in 1911, when she told the Los Angeles Herald  “I’m off for good now; no more acting for me. I’ve had enough. Twelve years on the stage is really long enough, and It’s not my fault that I had all that twelve years before I was 20 years of age. I used to like it, of course, and when I was a kiddie and we traveled about a lot and had nice times with the other children. It was lots of fun, but for two years now I have known that this glamour was gone and I have wanted to leave.” But in spite of these sentiments, she did not leave the stage.

In time, Daphne Trott was to become an outstanding vaudevillian in her own right. The headline photo on the top of this page shows her in 1920, at the height of her popularity on the London stage. Like Harry Fraser (Snub Pollard), she took the stage name Pollard, partly as convenience but also because many of the company performers liked to maintain the pretence of belonging to a family troupe. Later in careers it was a familiar and easy remembrance of times past.

In Melbourne, Daphne Trott’s father Walter and an uncle ran a furniture upholstery and French polishing business, although the Melbourne depression of the 1890s hit the family’s fortunes hard. We don’t know what attracted Daphne to the stage – perhaps as a child she saw other well-known Fitzroy girls, like Florrie Forde, perform at the Melbourne Opera House or the Theatre Royal. Daphne joined Pollard’s troupe in about 1900, with older sisters Ivy and Myrtle. The family lived nearby, later moving to a similarly modest dwelling at 96 King William Street, Fitzroy and finally to another cottage at 45 Westbank Terrace in Richmond.

About the time of Daphne’s departure for the US, the Trott family business operated on the corner of King William St and Brunswick St, Fitzroy (site now occupied by the orange and white supermarket in the distance). Author’s Collection. 
54-56 Kerr St Fitzroy
56 Kerr St, Fitzroy, was listed as Daphne Trott’s October 1891 birthplace and the family home for most of the 1890s. It is hard to believe this very modest single story terrace house had room for a baby and five older siblings! Only a few houses away in this street lived the Heintz family, whose twin boys Freddie and Johnnie also travelled on tour with Daphne.

In June 1900 Daphne and two older sisters Hilda and Ivy joined a Pollard Lilliputian Opera Company tour through South East Asia – Singapore, Penang, Rangoon and Calcutta. They followed this with another tour, departing in early September 1901 – this time to include Canada and the United States. 

Only a few days before Daphne’s departure on her second tour, the Trott’s much loved youngest child, four year old Wally, died as a result of typhoid fever. He had lingered in the Children’s Hospital for several weeks. (The story that he broke his neck doing somersaults on the bed on the eve of Daphne’s departure seems to be just that, another showbiz story). Although Wally’s headstone lies broken and forgotten at Kew cemetery, the surviving inscription reveals the depth of the family’s grief. It must have taken great strength for Daphne and her sisters to leave Australia. Twelve months later, in October 1902, the company arrived home, having won positive reviews up and down the North American west coast.

Wally Trott
So dearly loved, so deeply mourned.”  Wally Trott’s headstone at Kew Cemetery. Author’s Collection.

Performing for the Pollard opera companies was not for the faint-hearted. Their Australasian and overseas tours involved rigorous preparatory training and took child performers away from home for months, sometimes a year or more. The company were on yet another tour between January 1903 and April 1904.

The Pollard Lilliputians, with Daphne in large hat, lower right. Her sister Ivy is in the back row at left. Major Matthews Collection, AM54-S4: Port P1375, City of Vancouver Archives.

One surviving photo from this tour shows some of the performers and supervising adults sitting on the steps of the Badminton hotel in Vancouver. At the front, sitting slightly apart and wearing a large hat, is young Daphne, her poise and confidence unmistakable. Also in the back row stands Alf Goulding, who like Daphne, would eventually find his way to Hollywood.

Performing with Pollards. Left: Daphne’s sister Ivy Trott with Irene Loftus (Goulding) in A Gaiety Girl. Undated, but c 1903-4. Right Daphne Pollard. Undated. University of Washington, Sayre (J. Willis) Collection, Public domain images, via Wikimedia Commons

In May 1904, before departing yet again, an effort by Ernest Wolffe, the Pollard’s ex-musical director, to entice the child performers away to form a new breakaway group, led to a messy court case in Melbourne’s Supreme Court. It also revealed some of the company’s workings – that the parents of Pollard’s child performers would be paid via a trust fund – generally 10 shillings a month in the first 6 months, followed by £1 per month thereafter. Charles Pollard and Nellie Chester undertook to provide a tutor and paid for all the travel costs and accommodation. The child performers made pocket money by selling autographed souvenir photos after each show. Operating outside Australia, laws regarding education did not apply.

Not withstanding his offers of higher pay, Wolffe’s efforts failed. The court apparently found the children’s existing contracts with Pollard’s were still valid. The Trott family resumed their arrangements with the company for Daphne. Soon after, following a short season in July – September 1904, testing and refining their repertoire for Queensland audiences, Daphne and a new Pollard troupe arrived in North America in March 1905. Their stops along the way had included 5 months performing for enthusiastic colonial audiences in the “Far East”, Hong Kong, Shanghai and Japan.

Pollard’s advertising-already picking out its most popular stars during its third tour of North America. The Calgary Herald, 3 January 1906 via Newspapers.com

Program notes from performances in Montreal, Canada in 1905 reveal a typical Pollard’s schedule, which included six different popular musical comedies delivered across a week of performances – A Runaway Girl; The Belle of New York; A Gaiety Girl; The Geisha; HMS Pinafore and The Lady Slavey. It was no leisurely tour. Years later Daphne told a reporter;
“As a child actress in the Pollard Lilliputian Opera Company… I had to know thirty six operas by heart. (In) one I played the part of an old sheriff with side-whiskers, although I was only twelve at the time. One of the side-whiskers came off before the audience, but that, of course, made it all the funnier. We were all children, but we included grand opera in our repertoire.”

Part of a Pollard program from Montreal during their marathon 1904-07 North American tour. The ages are obviously wrong and many names used are not birth names. Author’s Collection.

In February 1907, the Pollard marathon two + year tour finally ended, and most of the Company returned home on the SS Moana. It must have become obvious by this time that Daphne’s future was not just performing with Pollard’s. By mid-1907, Daphne and her sister Ivy had accepted contracts with Frank W. Healy’s San Francisco Opera Company. They began performances later that year. For the next nine years Daphne performed in vaudeville throughout the United States, more or less continuously, developing her skills and attracting widespread acclaim. (Ivy married and left the stage in 1908.)

In 1908, the Trott parents and all but one of Daphne’s siblings followed her to North America, settling permanently in Seattle. It was a dramatic move, one that must have taken some deliberation by the whole family. And now, aged 19, Daphne felt more confident than ever to express her views. In April 1910 she announced that she supported a woman’s right to vote – a right enjoyed by most women in her native Australia but not yet granted to women in the United States. “Votes for Women. I’m going to march in the streets and carry a banner” she told a Seattle Star journalist. Her renown and popularity was such that she was chosen as Seattle’s first ever Queen of the Golden Potlatch Festival (now known as the Seafair Festival) the following year. Soon after, in a joyful and rather theatrical elopement, she married journalist Ellington Strother Bunch.

Above: Daphne Pollard c1915, at the time she appeared in The Passing Show of 1915. Author’s collection. [1]Elsewhere, the photo of Daphne at right has been erroneously labelled as “Sarah Saqui”, the well known C19th courtesan.

Undated image. University of Washington, Sayre (J. Willis) Collection, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons

If Daphne really did intend to retire after her 1911 marriage, she changed her mind soon after. By mid – 1916, Daphne was a seasoned enough performer to know the ways audiences in different US cities responded. She was also deeply immersed in her stagecraft and most unusually for the time, she was prepared to pause and publicly reflect on it. In a lengthy expose of the art of a typical review performance, for The Green Book Magazine, she wrote;

“The principal first out does her scene, usually not an important one so early in the evening, and exits after a song or dance number, marking the time for applause. The audience speaks then, and—believe me—there is not one of us who has not learned to judge its tone…If the applause is liberal and pretty much from all parts of the house, hopes soar high…

Next out may be the second comedian. He notches up the pace, sets the whole show a pitch higher and works like a fiend, all the time trying to gauge results and get bearings… By the time the first act is on its feet, we’ve got that audience so well sized up that each of us knows to a nicety the impression he or she will make.”


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Program for Albert De Courville’s “Zig-Zag!” 1917. Author’s Collection.

Following the success of another review The Passing Show of 1915 and at the height of the Great War, she traveled to London. There she appeared in a string of very popular revues at the Hippodrome for Albert De Courville. Zig-Zag! opened in January 1917 and was followed by Box o’ Tricks in 1918. (De Courville’s company also performed at the Folies-Bergere in Paris.) In 1919 she appeared in Joy Bells with another experienced Australian-born, US-based comedian, Leon Errol in the cast. In all, she spent almost ten years in London, taking a break for the birth of her only child – Ellington Walter Bunch in 1922 and several returns to New York, including one to appear in the Greenwich Village Follies in late 1923. Daphne Pollard is jointly credited as composer of several of the pieces performed in these shows. Reviews of her work continued to be enthusiastic and she easily managed both US and British cultural contexts. Friend Stan Laurel recalled one of her stage acts, as a “Cockney dame” (‘Arriet ‘Emmingway from Huntershire County “Hingland”), who struggled to manage the transition to living in the US. This character was later recycled as the theme of the short films America or Bust (1930) and Help wanted, Female (1931).

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London Sunday Pictorial. 25 February 1917. Daphne Pollard is in the centre. Author’s collection

In 1927 Mack Sennett finally convinced Daphne to appear in Hollywood films. Historian Sam Gill interviewed Daphne Pollard in the 1970s, and states that she recalled being approached by Sennett, twelve years earlier, while achieving such success with The Passing Show of 1915. But at that time she turned him down – she felt it would have been a step down, professionally.[2]Personal information from Sam Gill, Jan 2026

By 1927, it’s likely that the astute Daphne Pollard saw vaudeville and music theatre as under siege from the booming cinema industry, and decided to jump ship for purely practical reasons. Her surviving movies often mislead the casual reader today to think these were the sum of her working life. In fact, her 60 Hollywood films, made for Sennett and later RKO and then Universal were merely a footnote – most of them made in a period of just five years.

Sennett was a prolific producer, director and actor, who churned out over 1400 titles during his career. His fondness for slapstick and physical comedy was firmly rooted in vaudeville and of course, for him, Daphne Pollard was another actress trained in this tradition. One of Sennett’s former editors, William Hornbeck, interviewed by writer Kevin Brownlow years later, commented on how unsophisticated Sennett’s films often were, even for the time. Many of the films Daphne appeared in were made during the transition of silent to sound films, and as filmmakers like Sennett struggled to adapt to what worked in this new dimension, the humour often fell flat. And seen today, audiences may find the humour tasteless and some of the story-lines weak. The blackface ending to Two Smoked Hams (1934) and the burning building rescue in His First Flame (1935) are two obvious examples of seriously outdated humour.

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Above- Daphne Pollard as an everyday adult, on a passport application, in about 1916. Via Ancestry, via US National Archives 

Daphne Pollard’s first film for Sennett was The Girl from Everywhere (1927), a 20 minute comedy with Carole Lombard. She appeared in several more with Lombard, including Run Girl, Run and The Campus Carmen, both made in 1928. Several of these were directed by her friend and one time neighbour from inner Melbourne, and an old Pollard Lilliputian Opera associate, Alf Goulding.

As a consequence of Sennett’s prolific approach, her roles over the next few years were varied and while she sometimes appeared as one of the leading players, character roles, especially the fussy mother or the English servant, had become her stock in trade. In the otherwise dull 1930 sound musical Bright Lights, Daphne and Tom Dugan provide the comic relief playing a feuding married couple. In 1931’s The Lady Refuses she plays the eccentric maid.

Daphne sings!

This is Daphne singing a comic song about being “in the market” (meaning the stock market) in Mack Sennett’s Bulls and Bears (1930).

Here she is the drunken Aunt Agnes in Sennett’s Honeymoon Zeppelin (1930).


Only occasionally in her films do we see flashes of her skills as an extraordinarily energetic and highly experienced vaudeville performer– as when she demonstrates her admirable comic timing by snapping her teeth at Oliver Hardy in Thicker Than Water in 1935, or when she dances for the leading juveniles with such confidence and ease in Kid Dynamite made in 1943. But we can see her skills at their best when she takes the coquette role, one she had performed so often on the stage, wooing fireman “Smokey Mo” (Shemp Howard) in His First Flame, made in 1935. When she throws her handkerchief in front of him to gain his attention, and then wrestles him onto a park bench, it is a sequence straight from the vaudeville tradition. “I love you, I love you, I love you” she says aggressively, with her foot in Howard’s face.

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Above: Screen grab of Daphne Pollard and Shemp Howard in His First Flame (1935). Author’s collection. Howard’s pre-3 Stooges films are currently available to collectors on DVD.

Her well known straight role, as Oliver Hardy’s shrewish wife in the Hal Roach studio films Our Relations and Thicker than Water marked the end of her intensive Hollywood career. When she appeared in her last brief and un-credited role in Laurel and Hardy’s very silly The Dancing Masters, in 1943, she had been performing for 46 years.

She died in Los Angeles in 1978, her passing reported in the US but completely unnoticed in Australia. In time, the usual nonsense was written about her by eager fans – that she was sister of “Snub Pollard” or that her “Australian accent” got in the way of a career in sound films. Even the most perfunctory research shows neither proposition to be true.

Back home in Australia, Daphne’s older sister Hilda, having married Percy Wood, a Melbourne plumber, enjoyed a marriage that brought forth two daughters, one she named Daphne. Before retiring to the seaside, Hilda lived a few hundred metres from the Hoyts Merri Theatre in North Fitzroy, where presumably, she went to watch her sister’s movies.

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Above: Daphne with George Munroe in The Passing Show of 1915. The Pittsburg Press, 27 June 1915. Via Newspapers.com.

What sort of person was she? Unfortunately we only have sketchy evidence to make a conclusion. Historian Bill Egan has pointed out to this writer that Daphne led a threatened walkout when African-American performer Florence Mills shared the stage and the headlining for the Greenwich Village Follies in New York in late 1923. It is difficult to see this as anything other than professional jealousy and race prejudice, a point that was made even at the time. 

Stan Laurel’s correspondence also seems to suggest she was a feisty and forceful personality. Yet we also know that she maintained an affection for all her old friends into later life. When Teddy McNamara died of pneumonia in Hollywood in 1928, she attended his funeral with all the old Pollard Company performers. Willie Thomas, another performer from Pollard’s caught up with her in London in 1918, while he was on leave from the Australian forces on the Western Front. Meeting her backstage at the London Hippodrome was, Willie always said, a joyful reunion.


Note 1: The origin of the story that the “Emperor of China” wanted to buy her apparently has its origins in the following story. Zhang Zhidong was a high ranking Chinese official in the Qing Dynasty. The offensive comment attributed to Daphne may be true but as the contemporary journalist noted, the entire story is likely an exaggeration.

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Hong Kong Daily Press, May 27, 1905. Via Hong Kong Public Library Multimedia System

Nick Murphy
2018
, Updated June 2021, January 2026


References:

Special Thanks

  • To Robert Maynard, William Thomas’ grandson, for so generously sharing his family history and photos of the Pollards. See Willie Thomas’ story here.
  • Sam Gill, Hollywood film historian.

Collections

  • Australian Performing Arts Collection, Arts Centre Melbourne.
  • Public Record Office, Melbourne. Supreme Court Civil cases 1904/329 Pollard and Chester v Wolffe.

Publications

  • Gillian Arrighi (2017) The Controversial “Case of the Opera Children in the East”: Political Conflict between Popular Demand for Child Actors and Modernizing Cultural Policy on the Child.
    “Theatre Journal” No 69, 2017. Johns Hopkins University Press.
  • Peter Downes (2002) The Pollards, a family and its child and adult opera companies in New Zealand and Australia, 1880-1910. Steele Roberts, New Zealand.
  • Bill Egan (2004) Florence Mills : Harlem jazz queen. Scarecrow Press.
  • Kirsty Murray (2010) “India Dark.” Allen & Unwin Australia.
    See also https://insideadog.com.au/blog/incredible-india (India Dark is a fictional retelling of the disastrous Pollard tour of India in 1909 – but none of the Trott children performed in this)
  • Brent Walker (2013) “Mack Sennett’s Fun Factory: A History and Filmography of his Studio and His Keystone and Mack Sennett Comedies, with Biographies of Players and Personnel” McFarland & Co
  • Various (1888) “Victoria and its Metropolis, Past and Present. The Colony and its people in 1888.” Volume 11B. McCarron Bird and Co, Melbourne. P. 621. (See Trott family)
  • Trav S.D (Donald Travis Stewart), (2006) No Applause – Just throw Money. The book that made Vaudeville Famous. Faber and Faber, New York
  • Daphne Pollard 1916.Rehearsing the Audience”, The Green Book magazine, Pages 737-740
  • Kevin Brownlow (1968) The Parade’s Gone By… University of California Press.
  • Angela Woollacott (2001) To Try her Fortune in London. Oxford University Press.

Websites

Original US archival documents sourced from

National Library of Australia – Trove Newspaper Collection

  • The Age, 13 July 1901, P2 Advertising.
  • The Register, 4 July 1908, “Dramatic Notes”. Page 10
  • The World’s News, 4 Dec 1920, “Daphne Pollard”. Page 5

Newspapers.com

  • The San Francisco Call, 4 March 1906, P23. “Australian children…”
  • Los Angeles Herald, 30 March 1906, P9 “Little actress has ambition…”
  • Calgary Herald (Canada) 5 Aug 1907, P5 “Daphne and Ivy back”
  • Los Angeles Herald, 2 Sept 1907. P3 “Quintette of Principals from San Francisco Opera Co…”
  • The Winnipeg Tribune (Canada) 17 Dec 1906, P8 “Music and Drama”
  • The Seattle Star, 29 April, 1910. P14 “Marion Lowe has a… talk with tiny Daphne Pollard”.
  • The Lincoln Sunday Star, 11 July 1915. P7. “In the New York Theatres”
  • The Seattle Star, 6 June 1916, P.1
  • Pittsburg Courier, 3 Nov 1923. “White actress jealous of success of Florence Mills…”

Hong Kong Public Library Multimedia System

  • Hong Kong Daily Press, May 27, 1905. “Chang Chi-Tung and Daphne Pollard”

California Digital Newspaper Collection

  • Los Angeles Herald, Volume XXXVII, Number 310, 7 August 1911

British Library Newspaper Archive

  • The Bystander, 31 January 1917. P203, “Hands across the sea”.
  • The Graphic, 10 March, 1917. P292 “Zig Zag”
  • The Illustrated Sporting and Dramatic News, 24 March 1917, P90. “Round The theatres”
  • The Sketch, 17 April 1918. P64-65. “Lost to the Grenadiers…”
  • The Era, 20 April 1921. P13. “Why I like to look ugly”
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Footnotes

Footnotes
1 Elsewhere, the photo of Daphne at right has been erroneously labelled as “Sarah Saqui”, the well known C19th courtesan.
2 Personal information from Sam Gill, Jan 2026